I hope I can assist in analyzing the coloration of tennis accomplishment to paddle prowess. There has been much said about all the great tennis players that now play paddle. What happens when we reverse the equation?
Please state the tennis accomplishments of todays top 10 teams (as per current rankings):
GOODSPEED-MANSAGER
BANCILA-EASTERBROOK
DEROSE-LUBOW
COCHRANE-ESTES
MARINO-STULAC
ENGLISH-HEIL
ROTHSCHILD-SCHMITT
BRODERICK-MOORE
O'CONNOR-PARSONS
BERKA-EBERLY
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Do Tennis Players = Paddle Players
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, Mar 25 2009 12:54 PM
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 01:19 PM
QUOTE(Albert @ Mar 25 2009, 06:59 AM) 
I hope I can assist in analyzing the coloration of tennis accomplishment to paddle prowess. There has been much said about all the great tennis players that now play paddle. What happens when we reverse the equation?
Please state the tennis accomplishments of todays top 10 teams (as per current rankings):
GOODSPEED-MANSAGER - no idea
BANCILA-EASTERBROOK - Bancila- top ITF junior, D1 college player, pro player, Easterbrook- not sure
DEROSE-LUBOW - no idea
COCHRANE-ESTES - cochrane - college football, estes- no idea
MARINO-STULAC - marino - D1 college, Stulac - no tennis background that i know of
ENGLISH-HEIL - pretty sure they both played D1 tennis
ROTHSCHILD-SCHMITT - Both played D1
BRODERICK-MOORE - Both Played D1
O'CONNOR-PARSONS - Both Played D1
BERKA-EBERLY - Eberly played at ohio state
Please state the tennis accomplishments of todays top 10 teams (as per current rankings):
GOODSPEED-MANSAGER - no idea
BANCILA-EASTERBROOK - Bancila- top ITF junior, D1 college player, pro player, Easterbrook- not sure
DEROSE-LUBOW - no idea
COCHRANE-ESTES - cochrane - college football, estes- no idea
MARINO-STULAC - marino - D1 college, Stulac - no tennis background that i know of
ENGLISH-HEIL - pretty sure they both played D1 tennis
ROTHSCHILD-SCHMITT - Both played D1
BRODERICK-MOORE - Both Played D1
O'CONNOR-PARSONS - Both Played D1
BERKA-EBERLY - Eberly played at ohio state
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 01:27 PM
Albert,
Most great paddle players have a solid to great to outstanding tennis background. Without comparing eras, David Caldwell is probably the best/most accomplished tennis player of all great paddle players - I am not willing to go back 30+ years when a Herb Fitzgibbon won a national title - different eras, different games, different everything.
I would group the current great paddle players in four categories:
1. Great pro career on the ATP Tour (Caldwell)
2. Great collegiate career (playing #1 or #2 NCAA I) and/or ITF and/or ATP Tour ranking (Uihlein, Bondurant, Bancila, Schmitt, Jonason, Parsons, Rothschild, English, Broderick, Estes, Gambino, Albrikes, Eberly)
3. Solid collegiate tennis player (Goodspeed, Ohlmuller, Easterbrook, etc.)
4. Most interesting category: great paddle players with little or no tennis background whatsoever: Stulac, Cochrane, Cosimano, Mansager
It shows that a solid tennis background certainly helps your paddle game but it is not a must. Racquet skills are very important but even more so are mental toughness, speed, endurance, patience, shot selection, confidence, and teamwork.
Most great paddle players have a solid to great to outstanding tennis background. Without comparing eras, David Caldwell is probably the best/most accomplished tennis player of all great paddle players - I am not willing to go back 30+ years when a Herb Fitzgibbon won a national title - different eras, different games, different everything.
I would group the current great paddle players in four categories:
1. Great pro career on the ATP Tour (Caldwell)
2. Great collegiate career (playing #1 or #2 NCAA I) and/or ITF and/or ATP Tour ranking (Uihlein, Bondurant, Bancila, Schmitt, Jonason, Parsons, Rothschild, English, Broderick, Estes, Gambino, Albrikes, Eberly)
3. Solid collegiate tennis player (Goodspeed, Ohlmuller, Easterbrook, etc.)
4. Most interesting category: great paddle players with little or no tennis background whatsoever: Stulac, Cochrane, Cosimano, Mansager
It shows that a solid tennis background certainly helps your paddle game but it is not a must. Racquet skills are very important but even more so are mental toughness, speed, endurance, patience, shot selection, confidence, and teamwork.
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 01:38 PM
dont forget Brian O'Connor
-Most wins in school history
-4 year 1st team all conference
-3 time conference champs (the year they lost they got hooked)
-hooked up with more girls then any other guy in school history
played at Binghamton
-Most wins in school history
-4 year 1st team all conference
-3 time conference champs (the year they lost they got hooked)
-hooked up with more girls then any other guy in school history
played at Binghamton
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 02:32 PM
QUOTE(Not Really _Tom_* @ Mar 25 2009, 07:43 AM)
dont forget Brian O'Connor
-Most wins in school history
-4 year 1st team all conference
-3 time conference champs (the year they lost they got hooked)
-hooked up with more girls then any other guy in school history
played at Binghamton
-Most wins in school history
-4 year 1st team all conference
-3 time conference champs (the year they lost they got hooked)
-hooked up with more girls then any other guy in school history
played at Binghamton
Brian is also the club champion at Orienta, and has won several local Member/Guests and Mixed Member/Guests...
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 03:33 PM
Binghampton? That is D1? There are girls at SUNY Binghampton? What about Jim Kaufman- he played at Yale in the early 70's. And how about Bob Kleinert- 2 sport standout at Princeton, hoops & tennis. And that other Cochrane- heard he made the Vikings roster as QB.
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Posted 10 April 2009 - 12:11 AM
Peter Luczak, highest ATP ranking 69, incurred the ONLY loss in his college career... Mark Parsons was the guy who defeat him
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Posted 10 April 2009 - 09:18 PM
gotta check your stats on that one...it wasnt the ONLY loss of his entire college career...he was undefeated one year going into NCAA's...mark did in fact beat him...which has no relevance when it comes to paddle...Luczak went on to be 69, "coolest ranking ever", in the world, mark went on the be posting on paddlepro.com....
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Posted 10 April 2009 - 10:40 PM
Brat, you're kinda right... Technically, Luczak had another loss in his college career, where he withdrew due to an injury. However, I don't think you can count that as a legitimate loss. So please don't uderestimate Mark's tennis abilities! I know it has no relevance to paddle, it's rather a piece of tennis trivia. Also, 10 years ago, I beat David Nalbandian at Sunshine Cup (Junior World Cup) in Miami with the score of 6/2 6/0. He went on to become #3, while my highest was 240... but I took another head-to-head lead... I'm 1-0 at posting at paddlepro -very nice!!!
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Posted 09 September 2009 - 01:27 AM
Did Gael Monfils learn that jumping two-handed backhand by watching Cochrane or Parsons on the paddle court?
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Posted 09 September 2009 - 03:37 AM
QUOTE(Sofa King @ Sep 9 2009, 01:32 AM)
Did Gael Monfils learn that jumping two-handed backhand by watching Cochrane or Parsons on the paddle court?
not sure...but im pretty sure he learned how to lose from both of them...both are very highly over-rated in my mind...
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Posted 09 September 2009 - 01:59 PM
QUOTE(nadal @ Sep 9 2009, 03:42 AM)
QUOTE(Sofa King @ Sep 9 2009, 01:32 AM)
Did Gael Monfils learn that jumping two-handed backhand by watching Cochrane or Parsons on the paddle court?
not sure...but im pretty sure he learned how to lose from both of them...both are very highly over-rated in my mind...
wow nadal!
im shocked, not only are you taking time to post on paddlepro! but you write in perfect english as well...hmmm??
I believe Mr. Parsons and Mr. Cochrane are very talented.
you dont look like a cold weather guy on tv, so your paddle (or padel??) cant be great..
Who in your mind is rightfully deserving of praise in the paddle world??
-the Wangster!
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Posted 09 September 2009 - 03:09 PM
WHO CARES. STOP WITH THIS NON SENSE OF WANTING TO KNOW WHAT ACCOLADES PADDLE PLAYERS HAVE/HAD WHILE ON THE TENNIS COURTS
QUOTE(Albert @ Mar 25 2009, 12:59 PM)
I hope I can assist in analyzing the coloration of tennis accomplishment to paddle prowess. There has been much said about all the great tennis players that now play paddle. What happens when we reverse the equation?
Please state the tennis accomplishments of todays top 10 teams (as per current rankings):
GOODSPEED-MANSAGER
BANCILA-EASTERBROOK
DEROSE-LUBOW
COCHRANE-ESTES
MARINO-STULAC
ENGLISH-HEIL
ROTHSCHILD-SCHMITT
BRODERICK-MOORE
O'CONNOR-PARSONS
BERKA-EBERLY
Please state the tennis accomplishments of todays top 10 teams (as per current rankings):
GOODSPEED-MANSAGER
BANCILA-EASTERBROOK
DEROSE-LUBOW
COCHRANE-ESTES
MARINO-STULAC
ENGLISH-HEIL
ROTHSCHILD-SCHMITT
BRODERICK-MOORE
O'CONNOR-PARSONS
BERKA-EBERLY
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Posted 09 September 2009 - 03:29 PM
Knowsitall apparently doesn't know that nonsense is one word. Or when to use a question mark. Guest name should be AlmostKnowsitall...
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Posted 09 September 2009 - 03:36 PM
Mini Me doesn't know how to use proper grammar either. You should never start a sentence with "or." Just in case you didn't know, I get all my grammar facts from JUAN ARRAYA.
Do Tennis Players = Paddle Players
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QUOTE(Mini Me @ Sep 9 2009, 03:34 PM)
Knowsitall apparently doesn't know that nonsense is one word. Or when to use a question mark. Guest name should be AlmostKnowsitall...
